After a truly exhilarating
performance here at Bradford Rios, we catch up with one of the true
Legends in Rock Marc Storace. Lead singer with Krokus and one very
entertaining companion, to chat into the wee small hours.
MM - Would
you like to start by introducing yourself to our readers?
Marc - My name is Horrace Doris, or
maybe Doris Horrace! Ha ha, Marc Storace they call me.
MM - How has the tour been going so far and what have
been some of the highlights?
Marc - The
tour has been going really fantastic, we've had some really exciting
days, like an accident in Denmark and changing the driver, then getting
another driver who was a little bit psychotic and jet-lagged.
Driving winding roads with a bus with a trailer on the end. We got
stuck somewhere in Barcelona, up near the church and the police had to
come up and help us out, otherwise we would have just been stuck there.
It's been incredible!
Then
we got delayed getting into Serbia because they wouldn't let the
equipment in, but these were all just little things.
Regarding our goal of bringing our music live to old fans and making new
fans, that's really been working very well and we're all very satisfied. The
main thing is we're all still alive. We've actually just got the
trailer fixed today because last night it got bashed for the second time
whilst driving on to a ferry coming back from Dublin to Holyhead.
We nearly didn't make it to the gig here today in time. We came
very late and of course it was all very stressful for our crew, who are
less than a skeleton crew now. They really are doing miracles for
the two bands.
It's been great also from the point of view that when I first heard from
the record company that we would be sharing the tour bus I said ...
"What!, Holy Moly!, I've never had to do this before in the whole
of my career!" Of course we've had crew members on before,
sharing our bus so it's the same team, but the first thing that comes to
mind is that there is going to be a hell of a lot of rivalry and
bitching. Who knows it could be that we might hate each other and
end up in a fist fight after a week or something! Actually it
turned out to be the total opposite and we're going to miss these guys
The Poodles when the tour is over. We've become real comrades in
arms and we're all fighting against the same pressures.
We really harmonise and they don't have dirty socks and they brush their
teeth at night. You never know what it might be like if it had
been another kind of band who only washed their hair once a month and
hung up their dirty underwear by the television!
(Pontus
Norgren is currently beside us on the bus getting cleaned up and ready
for bed and this is Marc's little way of ribbing him).
So I guess the bottom line is that the Swiss and the Swedes are
compatible, plus we both have some stories to tell. Pontus is like
a walking encyclopaedia. This guy he's done it all, seen it all
and is still doing it. Pontus - What about you then Marc?
Marc - Ha ha, I'm on the last round. After this it's
funeral home!
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We're all
having a really great time, I've just come back from having an
Indian meal here in "Little India" (Bradford).
They didn't serve any alcohol though so I'm busy catching up
now. MM - That's strange because they
usually do. Maybe they saw you and thought that you were
too rock n' roll and might get a little too rowdy and wreck the
place? Marc - There was only
two of us, myself and our sound engineer! There were more
of their guys than there was of us!! We don't look very
dangerous do we?
It was great
though to have another Indian meal before returning to Switzerland.
There they are
wide apart and there's maybe only one in every city. I had Rogan
Josh because my wife always cooks Rogan Josh for me and I wanted to see
if they could do it better!
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MM -
I
heard that last year when you
were out on tour the band left you
behind at a petrol station?
Marc
-
Yes
it was another one of those things. It was all my fault. She
was faster than me! MM - Pardon?!?
Marc - Our bus driver Andrea! I
was sitting up front like I do most nights when everything goes hush and
I have my quiet time. All I hear is the snoring from the others on
the bus. Our bus driver Andrea was a really nice German bus
driver. She stopped the bus and said she was just going out for a
coffee.
In my mind I thought she was going to sit down and sip her coffee, then
go to the toilet. So I got off the bus and went to the toilet for
a quick pee. When I came out the bus was already pulling away and
I starting running behind waving my arms about and whistling for it to
stop, but it just went off down the highway. I got this cold rush
and thought ... "Holy Shit!" ... Thank God I had my jacket on
with my mobile in it with all my numbers on, only I didn't have her
number and everyone on the bus was asleep. So after trying to call
everybody, the only person I could call that was awake at that time was
our manager Peter Maganto in America! So I called Peter in America
and I said ... "Pete, this is the situation" ... he said don't
worry I am on the ball, just you sit and rest and I will sort it all
out.
Luckily there were people at the petrol station who knew about the band
and so they made me feel as comfortable as possible. But there was
not one single chair to sit down on until the Restaurant opened at 7 o'
clock in the morning! So I was stuck there standing around
drinking coffee and chatting, signing autographs and making phone calls.
It was really funny.
Also I had no passport and that was the worst thing, because if I'd had
a passport I could have tried every truck going in that direction.
I would have just got on and sat next to the guy then he could have took
me across the border. But, I had no passport so I was in deep
shit!
Anyway Peter in America eventually got in touch with Stefan and when he
got the message he looked in my bunk and there was no me. I wasn't
anywhere to be found on the bus and they had just arrived at the venue!
It was amazing. He quickly asked everyone else and they said ok,
so Storace is missing! They phoned Peter back and Peter told them
where I was, but this was about 3 or 4 hours drive away. So they
sent a Mercedes up and it took me back down in time for sound check.
We did the gig and then I went to bed because I had had no sleep that
night. I was afraid to fall asleep because then I could not carry
on being in control of the situation. MM -
You
do realise the excitement is supposed to be while you're on stage and
not before you get there? Marc - Yes,
but we seem to have it all days! The only time we are away from it
is when we get some sleep.
MM – Talking of shocks, was it a shock when Fernando Von Arb
decided to call it a day and leave the band?
Marc - In a way it was like a
secret wish come true because he was only blocking our way really.
The only sad thing about it, and this was only for me, was when I looked
to the past, Fernando was the only other member of the band who was
constant in Krokus throughout all the time that I was in Krokus.
But I had slowly been building up a resentment because he did not want
to tour, he was just not interested. The reasons he had made
sense, but it does not make sense to me for a band that wants to make it
back to where they were before, if not bigger, not to tour. The
spirit has to be there and his spirit was no longer there. I am
sure if we had mentioned going to the USA he'd have got a cold rush.
He had cancer and he overcame that and I helped him a little bit because
I said let's get Krokus back together, so we got the reunion tour
together. We had been at loggerheads before, but as soon as I
found out he had cancer, I thought there was nothing worse than that to
face. So I buried my hatchet immediately and decided now he needed
all positive energy.
The bottom line was we were comrades, sometimes friends, sometimes deep
friends, sometimes not really getting on. Then in the end I was
happy to see the end of everybody in the band and the whole organisation.
In 1988 I left because there was too much intrigue, it was like a cancer
festering away. Plus we'd had 8 years on the road touring
constantly and no long holidays, a month if that and then we would start
song writing again. It was really like being in the mill.
In 8 years we had 7 studio albums and 1 live album and that's a hell of
a lot. Then the quality starts to suffer because somehow the songs
start to deteriorate and become shallow and repetitive. When he
said ... "I am leaving the band, do what you like, get a good
guitar player and tour where you like" ... I thought ok that's what
I'm going to do. So I drove home and I called Mandy up, because
Mandy and I had remained friends over all the years since he was thrown
out of the band in 1982 by Von Arb and Von
Rohr.
I had been against that decision too
but I had been outvoted. There had been too many self destructive
decisions made in the past, and when you change a band member for me it
is like removing a finger and sewing on someone else's. It takes
time. It could be rejected again. It's not an easy thing.
Despite all the bullshit I am actually a deep person and very emotional
and if someone is my friend then they are my friend. Ok, I
understand sometimes you have to separate music from friendship and look
at it from a business point of view.
Right now I think Krokus has the best formation of musicians. Both
the harmony between the musicians and the musicianship is of a high
level. I am very happy with the way it is and after everything we
have been through, we're still playing solid and very tight. We're
looking forward to some festivals and some bigger dates back in
Switzerland, where we can play the whole set and loving every meet and
greet after each gig. We like to see our fans. Now it is
very rushed and we have to cut down to just 45 minutes. We don't
meet and greet fans as much as we'd like to, but it's still good because
we are meeting a lot of new ones. MM
- While
keeping your old ones happy at the same time. Marc
- Yes, I took a stroll by the bar
and they all came forward and they were really happy. Ok, so a
couple of them said ... "why didn't you play this?" ... but we
only had 45 minutes so we can't play everything. Considering the
band have been away for something like 18 years or more it has been
really nice being back in London and coming here. It was also our
first time to play in Ireland and it was good to go back to Glasgow and
be welcomed so well after so long.
Now if you are away for 3 years you are usually forgotten, but I guess
we must have left a lasting impression in the 80's because the proof is
here now a hundred years later. You see it like it really is because
then you don't know if it's really all just hype from the press and you
perhaps don't know what really is the truth. Mandy and I came over
a little while ago for a weekend to do interviews and met some people
and talked to them. They were all very positive. It's a very
humble thing and makes you feel very positive because it is for real and
it's not just hype when that happens.
MM - I think a lot of the UK rock fans have a very genuine warm
regard for the band and hold you up on par with the likes of Saxon and
Motorhead, bands they have taken to their hearts. Even after all
these years you still seem to have all the energy and passion that you
had before, for the music you create.
Marc -
Well it is important to stay focused on what you're doing. It's
important to keep the consistency going for each and every gig when you
go out on stage. The set is very premeditated. We tried out
a few different songs and moved things around so that the energy would
remain there throughout the whole of the set. We must have changed
our repertoire about 5 times before we found the one we were happy with,
because we wanted to keep it compact and more dynamic. I think
that we have achieved this and as I said before, if when we come off
stage people say they wished we had played for longer then we must have
done something right! Maybe when we come back to headline we can
include some more of those songs they wanted us to play.
MM - The
band have been going since the early 70's in one form or another and
have seen many other bands come and go. What do you put the bands
longevity down to
?
Marc
-
Well Krokus was and still is the biggest rock export from Switzerland
and I guess there is still a lot of pride in that. Not only that
but the main thing for us has always been the music. The songs we
like to do have always been very good songs that hold up and have a long
life. They do not age and decay. I dare say we use basic
instruments, we don't even have keyboards. There were a couple of
albums where we experimented but it didn't really work. I think we
have the kind of sound that never grows old because it is not a fashion
sound that follows the trends. There's blues in there, boogie and
rock. There are good melodies and commercial sounding guitar
solo's as opposed to progressive rock. So it is easy to hold in
your memory, it's good party music.
MM - What was it
like working with Pink Cream 69's Dennis Ward on the new album?
Was he a hard task master to work for, or was he on the same wavelength
as you all
?
Marc
– It
was like having a sixth member of the band, it was really good. He
is a musician himself, he plays bass and is a really nice guy, easy
going and he is very good on Pro-Tools. Yet he knows the old
school stuff as well! Actually we started our work in an old
school studio just outside of Stuttgart,
there was this huge room where you could have put an orchestra in.
That's where we had Stefan playing the drums and behind the glass we
were all in this very big control room with a huge analogue desk and the
little Pro-Tools in the corner.
We started out using tape because I had asked for it. We used an
old 32 track to get the vocals down. I also wanted to hold the mic
in my hand, so I checked if this was a problem with Dennis and he said
it was alright. He even added this little volt thing, you'd think
he'd got it out of a museum! It had these two little nobs on it
and he rigged it up and passed it through to give a natural warm sound
which I like to have, especially when I hit high notes so that it does
not hurt the ears.
Then we worked through it all systematically and then have a listen.
He'd give his ideas only when it was needed. He didn't push
anything on to us that didn't have to be. Some of the songs were
too long and we had to do it in a way that would make people want to go
back and play the album again and again. We're all very happy with how
it came out and I think we achieved more than we set out to achieve.
MM - Was that the
first time you'd worked with Dennis? Marc
- Yes. MM
-
Would you work with him again? Marc -
Yes I would, no problem. He doesn't live that far away from where
I am and so after we'd decided to go for the rhythm tracks first, then
Mandy and I left the studio and left the rest to get the rhythm sections
done. Dennis got all of the rhythm sections done first, the bass
and then the rhythm guitar, then Mandy got the tapes so we could work at
home. He did all his fills and solo's at home, there were about
hundreds of them to do. I worked on my vocals and polished the
lyrics and also thought about the backing vocals.
Dennis took a weeks break after the first go and then he drove down and
we recorded all my vocals and backing vocals in about 6 days, which is
very good. Then he took Mandy's stuff and sat down with him and
checked which solo out of the 6 he should put on. That part is
really nerve wracking as it is so time consuming and you really have to
use your memory well.
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They
did that together and then after that was done I did the vocals.
Actually they should have been the other way around, but there
was enough for me to use my fantasy and do my performances.
That's the whole thing about being in a studio, you need to
forget about being in a studio and imagine there's an audience
out there somewhere listening. Of course I cannot close my
eyes because then I wouldn't be able to see the lyrics!
But I get the lights set up so it looks a little mystical.
MM – What songs have you actually added from the new album to
your live set?
Marc -
The title track 'Hellraiser' and also 'Angel Of My Dreams'.
When we headline we include about 6 songs from the new album,
which is a hell of a lot.
Usually
albums don't have that many tracks
that one
can play live.
There's a lot of stuff that is good for listening but just
doesn't work well live. I guess that proves again that we
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In the
80's we had this reputation where some bands didn't want to have us on
tour with them because they were afraid to get the hammer. We
always delivered quite a punch without too many frills. We don't
go in for too many backing vocals and stuff, but that's only because
that's the style it is, it's not because we don't like it. We
listen to other bands and take pleasure out of their productions.
Variety is what makes it all nice.
MM -
What are some of your favourite highlights off the new album, what songs
do you enjoy the most? Marc
-
'Angel of My Dreams'. 'Hellraiser' because it is a crazy party
song. 'Hangman' because it has this melancholic feel to the vocals
and has a good story to it. It also sounds really massive live,
it's like an arena song. I also like 'Spirit Of The Night' because
it's really fast. We're not a speed metal band but I think that
song could easily fit into that title. I personally like the song
'Take My Love' because it's something very different. You won't
find another Krokus song anywhere that sounds like that, the way it's
arranged, the vocals and so on. 'Midnite Fantasy', I like that one
too because I can really blues it up and it's not too high.
MM - All
the songs on the album are very strong, there's not one weak one among
them.
Marc
- Yes, when we started we had a really wide choice. We'd already
started writing in 2003 around the time when we released the double live
album out 'Fire & Gasoline'. Then we went into the writing
period, still with Fernando in the band. Then eventually the band
changed and everything was totally different. New musicians with a
stronger spirit because everyone was giving all they had. Stefan
joined us last. By then basically all the music had come from Dom and
Tony. Mandy and I did all the vocal melodies and lyrics and then
together we all arranged them. Stefan came into the band about
that time and gave his interpretation on the arrangements.
We had all these songs and first we threw out all the songs the
musicians in the band thought were extra. But then we still had
such a wide choice to choose from, maybe something like 38 songs.
We still have those songs and ideas, they were not lost and when we go
into pre-production again for the next album and I start writing more
new songs, we will give these songs a second listen. We'll write
the new ones first and then we will have another listening party and
we'll have a big meal and listen to them all and make a big event out of
it. Then everyone will write out his personal list and we do it
democratically and choose the ones we have all chosen in common.
Then we will look at the other ones and that's when it becomes funny and
we ask each other ... "Why did you choose that?" ... Everyone
listens to what everyone else has to say, then the producer, the
manager, the record company, they all get to pitch in with their ideas.
So hopefully then we will really only go for the right decisions.
This time we even had an extra track which was released only on the
Japanese CD. That was something we didn't know whether to include
it on the album or not. In the end it went on as a bonus track,
that was 'Walking In The Spirit'.
MM - Maybe
you could add that to your live set so all your fans can hear it?
Marc
- Who knows, maybe we could put in on the next album? We've
had very good feedback from that song, it's very catchy and it stays
with you.
MM - How difficult
has it been for you to change or adjust to the new era of the music
industry, the internet, downloading and all that stuff
?
Marc
– Obviously there is a difference. The industry is suffering
from that and there is less income for musicians unless you are selling
multi-platinum. Obviously we will all be happy when solutions are
found and from what I gather these are slowly on the way. I keep
hearing things here and there about IPod and paying to download songs
and so on. On one hand it's good to be on the black market because
it means you're popular, but that popularity isn't going to pay your
bills! That's how it is basically.
MM
- In the past bands could perhaps release an album and rely on that to
bring in the money. However times are changing and when people can
download the music illegally for free, maybe it's more important for
bands to tour and get the income mainly from the touring and the
merchandise than from the actual original product of the album?
Whereas it was the album that brought in the money and the tour was just
a secondary thing, maybe this is now turning the other way around?
Marc
-
That's hard to say. Maybe if we were headlining and selling out
huge arenas every night then I guess there would be no problem with
merchandising and selling cd's on the spot. But it's on the way up
that's the most crucial part for a bands survival and to make the whole
thing feasible. On the other hand I believe the rock fans, our
fans, are not the downloading type. It's not our music that is
maybe suffering from this. I guess kids can download one song if
they want from a rap or pop band, I guess they're the ones that play
with these toys. I think about when I talk to a lot of rock fans
who still like to hear vinyl, so do I because it still sounds great.
Unfortunately we're not doing vinyl, but that's a thing that has to do
more with budgets and politics. Let's see what they come up with.
I think it's very important to find a solution against this because it
is very costly to tour.
MM -
Can we finally put to bed the rumours that you were approached
to replace Bon Scott following his untimely demise?
Marc
– Ah
well this was just a little question dropped in between the
lines. We had a production company and things were going
really well and for Krokus at that time. It was just after
'Metal Rendevouz' album. That album was my debut album
with the band and things were really starting to happen for us.
We could even afford the production to be made in Birmingham.
The real thing! Although we live in Switzerland, in those
days there were not enough people who were professionals in the
business.
Then we
were delivered a new light show and new production with
computerized matrix and all that, I was on top of the world and
really happy at the way things
were going.
So when
this little question came up, it was just very obvious for me,
why should I? We were on the way up! God knows how the
others (AC/DC) were going to
do. It could have gone either way because they had just
lost their lead singer, so they were lucky, very lucky.
They're very good though, fantastic.
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MM -
You can understand why you were an obvious choice for them to approach
you. Marc -
Yes I do and it took me a while at first to get over it, because every
act and everyone wants to be know as his own individual and be respected
for his own craft. But then I learnt to see the positive side of
it. It was only in the very beginning that I thought .. "Fuck
off, I am me!". The way I look at it now is we grew up around
the same time in different parts of the world and with the same
influences. Just by a stroke of coincidence we had the same vocal
technique, although mine expands a little wider. I couldn't
imagine them doing a song like 'Screaming In The Night' or 'Midnite
Fantasy'. I'm more flexible going in this direction I think.
Still it's a compliment and I get it every day in a positive way.
It's not meant as a put down, it's more of an ego boost.
MM -
Finally
is there anything you would like to say to all your fans out there?
Marc
– Well
it's taken a long time to return to the UK and hopefully we will be back
again soon. In the mean time I hope that people are going to
listen to the new 'Hellraiser' album and catch up on the back catalogue,
because I know a lot of you are still young and if your dad hasn't got
the collection you might want to start with the best of double live
album 'Fire & Gasoline'.
If you have any questions that you want to ask us, if you want to know
where we are in the world or what we're doing, just go on to www.krokusonline.com
and there you can ask us anything you like. Especially if you
contact our fan club president and now US manager Peter Maganto.
He used to manage me 30 years ago. Peter will be only too happy to
answer any questions and he will relay them on to us so you will
actually get the answers through Peter from us.
We're really looking forward to returning because this little visit has
really given us a boost. We know we are still wanted here which is
nice. We never take anything for granted in life. MM
- Another way is perhaps people could come to the gigs and ask you them
in person? Marc - Yes,
mainly when we are headliners. We love to do meet and greets after
a show when we have changed into something less sweaty. We usually
go to the merchandise stand and get behind with pens ready to shoot.
You can bring your old records, anything you'd like signed, we'll even
sign your erm ... MM - Arms?
Marc - Yes, arms of course! Biceps and
stuff like that. We do get these requests, but please not the
toes, it takes too long!
MM - What can I say,
Marc you are not only a fantastic singer and front man, but it's also an
absolute pleasure to talk to. I look forward to seeing you back on
these shores with your next tour.
The bands new album 'Hellraiser' actually made it into our top 20
releases of 2006 and has remained a strong favourite in the office since
it landed on our desks. If you haven't had the chance to check it
out yet then I'd certainly recommend you do so, it's an absolute corker. |