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Earlier
in the New Year we caught up with keyboard maestro Eric Ragno for a
quick run down of what he'd been up to in 2008 and what we had to look
forward to coming this year from him. On hearing about all the
exciting projects he was involved in we decided to twist Eric's arm into
chatting with us some more so we could probe deeper into what this man
had planned for the coming year. Here's what he had to tell us ...
MM - Firstly
can I say what a pleasure for all of us here at The Mayfair Mall Zine to
have this opportunity to interview a true keyboard legend.
Eric -
Thanks
so much! Legend!
I only wish man. But
I’m glad people enjoy what I do.
: )
MM
- Well let’s get down to it, its finally out the China Blue album
‘Twilight Of Destiny’, how does it feel to have this album released
after so many years in the closet?
Eric -
I’ve
always wanted to make this album, and to see it finished is a pretty
amazing experience! I am so
proud, and I’m excited that the fans seem to really like it!
I’ve done so much work for other artists over the years, and
it’s amazing to finally put out something that has so much of “me”
in it. It feels really
good, and I owe a special thanks to all the guys who helped me make this
happen.
MM
- The album boasts a number of high profile guests, has this in itself
made this album something rather special to yourself?
Eric -
I never intended to make this an all-star album.
I live in Los Angeles and I work with some well-known friends, so
when it came time to choose a guitarist, bassist, etc. I chose the best
guys I know! And they are
well-known in AOR circles. I
am thrilled to have their talents here, and the critics feel that this
is some of the best work these guys have done in years.
But bringing in high profile guests also gives the impression
that this was some pre-conceived project, which it was not . These are
my friends, and we’re doing an album together.
That’s what being in a band is all about.
MM
- And
how did you get the guys like Tony Mills, Josh Ramos and Doug
Odell involved in the whole
process?
Eric -
The word was out that we were looking for a singer and Tony (like
myself) always enjoys working with new people, so he contacted us.
His voice adds a real magic to these songs and his harmonies are
heavenly! I had met Josh
while writing the Ramos/Hugo record with him and Hardline bassist Jamie
Browne. We have a real
chemistry together and I hope we write more in the future.
He plays the kind of melodic guitar that I heard in my head when
I wrote these songs – so of course I wanted to work with him again.
And Doug I had performed together at the Melodic Rock Fest in
Indiana, we partied together in England at Firefest and performed with
Ted Poley in Pennsylvania. He
is a powerful bass player with a warm heart, and was as natural choice
for this record.
We
also have Ronny Smith from Xenon on rhythm guitars.
Ronny does some amazing layers on this album.
I was a huge fan of Xenon while growing up in New Jersey, and I
wanted to add that special sparkle to these songs.
On drums we have Zane Petersen, a good friend from Minneapolis
who left early on to start his own project, Solna.
We finished the album with Pete Newdeck, a super drummer in
England who I recorded and performed with in England as part of Steve
Grimmett’s band. These
are all amazing guys who I have worked with at one point or another, and
I am proud to have them here on this album.
MM
- When you were going through the material for the album, were there any
tracks that didn’t make this album but could be used for say a second
China Blue album?
Eric -
I
have a lot of material set aside, as well as some new things I’ve been
working on. For this album
I picked some old songs that I had written in the 80’s for my original
incarnation of China Blue, and I wrote some new ones to round them out.
Once I knew what the line-up would be, I started writing songs
that would showcase Tony’s voice, Doug’s bass, Ronny’s guitar,
Josh’s leads…I wanted each guy to stand out so for example I wrote
Crimes with Pete Newdeck in mind because there are lots of great drum
fills and double-kick action, and he excels at that.
So there is a combination of old and new in there, and I am
constantly writing songs for other artists as well.
We’re going to talk about a follow-up record once the summer is
out.
MM
- Has reliving the past been a labour of love for you as an artist?
Eric -
That is a really great question. The
past makes us who we are today – all the good, the bad, etc.
The older material on this album was written with my good friend
Tom Gasbarro during some very emotional times in our lives.
Re-recording these songs allowed me to relive some of those
experiences, and writing the new material allowed me to reflect on who I
am today and how it all turned out.
There is a line that appears a few times on the album (and the
bonus tracks) – “so this is where we are”.
That is so heavy and personal to me.
So when people listen to this record or review it, often they
focus on the amazing vocals, the great guitar leads, etc.
But for me, the record is about what I’ve been through and
where I am at today. Thank
god I had all this amazing talent to help tell the story!
MM
- From the initial meeting with Michael
Riesenbeck, how long did the album take to complete?
Eric -
That’s another good question, and I’m not entirely sure.
I could say five years, maybe six – but it wasn’t non-stop
work at all. When Michael
& I first started talking about doing this record, we both had very
demanding day jobs. Since
that time I lost my job and went on to pursue music full time, while
Michael’s job changed and he had a baby.
He originally hoped to produce the record, but once Tony joined
the band and the album started getting serious attention, it was clear
that we would have to raise the bar a little and have someone
experienced like JK Northrup come in and do the amazing job that he did!
Also, the guys on this album all have busy schedules.
We had to stop production a few times once Tony joined TNT, and
when Zane started Solna. The
original bass player went on tour and never came back to finish the
record. Every time we were
put on hold, I went off to work on records with Ted Poley, American
Angel, Michael Bormann, David Readman & others.
Once thing calmed down a bit we were able to focus on finishing
the album. My friend
Fabrizio Grossi was a big help in showing me what we needed to do to
finish the album. After
that it was all done in six months.
MM
- Was
there any time-pressure throughout the production, regarding any
deadlines etc.? Or did you have all the time you needed to fully work
everything out?
Eric -
We
originally started this as a side project or a hobby, with no label in
mind and no deadlines. Once
we signed with Frontiers, everybody made the time to make sure the album
was submitted on schedule. At
the end I was leaving for a European tour with Graham Bonnet, so I
downloaded the final mixes from JK from my phone in Germany.
JK does such amazing work, he really didn’t need much input
from me at all.
MM
- This album has surely sprung you into the depths of promotional work,
how are you coping when the spotlight is on you for your work?
Eric -
Oh
man! I’ve never done this
much promotion before! I
really want people to know about this album, and to understand that
it’s not some anonymous project but a real band of players!
Meanwhile I have been getting a lot of opportunities to play on
albums and write songs for other artists, which is always great.
But first I need to promote this album, and that often takes time
away from making music. I
am very excited about this record and I hope that people will check out
the sound clips and give it a chance!
MM
- What has been the initial feedback from the media and fans around the
new album?
Eric -
I have been lucky – I appeared on 7 other albums in 2008, including
two high profile releases for Frontiers that I wrote heavily on - From
the Inside with Danny Vaughn, and the Ramos/Hugo.
So the fans seem to embrace this album because they are familiar
with what I do, they love Tony’s voice and Josh’s guitar and we’ve
wrapped it all together in one nice package!
Some of the metal magazines had wanted the disc to be more metal,
but to be fair this record has more in common with Journey than with
Metallica! While it does
have power, it’s also has
keyboards and harmonies and all of the classic elements you would find
on an AOR record. I’m not
offended – I work on a lot of metal albums and I have some new ones
coming soon! But that was
the only real criticism.
MM
- So are you still working on other material whist the promo train for
‘Twilight Of Destiny’ is still rolling?
Eric -
I’ve
been writing songs for David Readman’s next album, and some songs for
Zane Petersen’s next project. I’ve
also been recording tracks for the new album from Savage Paradise, which
features Mario Parga, Graham Bonnet (Rainbow), Tim Luce (Alcatrazz) and
Kevin Valentine, who played drums on some big rock records including
some work with Kiss. I also
completed tracks for the new Pushking album, a compilation disc that
also features Paul Stanley, Alice Cooper, Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top and
a host of others. It’s a
pretty exciting time!
MM
- Is
there any one song on ‘Twilight Of Destiny’ that you feel
particularly connected to?
Eric - I
love them all, I really do. For
a rock vibe, I love So Wrong. It’s
a powerful song and it moves quickly – Tony sings “pick it up, keep
it up”, and you know he means it!
On a personal level, songs like Passions really move me.
Again that lyric – “this is where we are”.
There is a beautiful remix of this track that is a bonus for the
U.S. release; it really showcases Josh and what he can do.
This album goes right across the spectrum, all the highs and lows
and action and serenity. I
hope people feel it.
MM
- Moving on now to some of the other projects you’ve been involved
with recently, would you like to tell us more about the From The Inside
and Ramos/Hugo projects
that you’ve been involved with, both of which were recently released
on the Frontiers Record label.
Eric -
I met Josh through a mutual friend, and at the time Josh was looking for
someone to write with for his new album.
As you know, anything Josh does is immediately compared to
Journey, so we wanted to write an AOR record without playing too much
off of that. Of course once
Hugo came on board, there was no way to avoid any Journey comparisons!
But working with him was a great experience; we became soul
brothers on that one. We
drove to Northern California to write, and Josh shared some amazing
stories about Bill Graham and Carlos Santana and what the Journey
rehearsals were like during the band’s Raise on Radio era.
During
the recording I met Fabrizio Grossi, who produced the record.
We immediately clicked and he enjoyed my work, and asked me to
participate on the FTI record with Danny Vaughn.
I was very excited, and Danny had just gotten off tour with
Journey so again they were looking for an AOR album.
I was more than happy to dig into this, and both albums received
a lot of great praise. I
love working with Fabrizio – he has a good ear for melody and really
knows what he is doing. We
need more guys like that! It
was during the recording of these two albums that we finalized a deal
with Frontiers for the China Blue CD, and finished the record there.
MM
- Rumour
has it that Angelmilk Records will also be re-releasing the Vox Tempus
album ‘In The Eye Of Time’ you were involved with.
Eric -
The
label has had some difficulty, but I’m hoping they are finally back on
track. Vox Tempus is a prog
band I worked with after I left Takara in the 90’s, in the same vein
as Dream Theatre. We did
one album that had a limited released in the U.S.
Andy Bramhall was a fan of the disc, and approached us about
having his label Angelmilk give this album another shot.
We’re really excited to see how it goes.
MM
- You’ve worked with some of the biggest names in the Melodic/Hard
Rock genre, is there anyone who you admire and would like to work with
but haven’t had the opportunity to do so yet?
Eric -
I could make a list as long as my arm, but you never know who will come
calling. I thought it would
be great to work with Steve Vai, and now we’re doing a track together
for the Pushking album. I
love Eric Martin, we’ve done some live stuff together and it would be
great to do studio album together one day.
MM
- If
you could go back in time to when you were first starting out and could
give yourself just one piece of advice, what would you tell yourself?
Eric -
I
wish I had believed in myself more growing up.
I always felt a bit awkward and unsure of my abilities.
I had to come to Los Angeles and see for myself that I could do
this. I often wish I could
go back and make that happen.
MM
- With 2009 just underway what can we expect for Eric Ragno this year,
any surprises?
Eric - Well
the Pushking album is the big thing right now, I can’t wait to hear
the final product! The
follow-up to the Los Angeles project with Michele Luppi is coming this
year, and a few other surprises. I’m
also starting work on some things for American Angel, who celebrate
their 20th anniversary next year.
And the Savage Paradise album continues so.
So I’m pretty excited.
MM
- Which
magical musical moment motivated you to start playing keyboards instead
of say the guitar?
Eric -
I started out on drums, I played some big venues while I was in high
school and was pretty good at it. My
mom was a keyboard player in a rock band, she had synths and pianos
around the house, so I always dabbled with it.
But as you say there were some magical moments I saw that turned
me around…Journey on their Frontiers tour, Eddie Van Halen’s cool
keyboard work on 5150, stuff like that.
I saw that keyboards could play a role in a hard rock context,
and I wanted to do that.
MM
- With you work on so many Melodic/Hard Rock albums over the years can
you see the whole scene capturing those glory days of old?
Eric -
I hope so. I’m certainly
doing my part! It’s hard
to say, I mean you can’t hear this music on radio anymore but you can
find it on TV, in video games and movies, so you never know.
In the meantime I’m writing more and trying to make these
releases as good as they can be.
MM
- What
advice would you give to any bands out there struggling to get their
sound out to bigger audiences when the media seem so fixed on ready made
TV bands and groups?
Eric - Think
out of the box. Get your
music out to as many people as you can, make sure people know about you.
And work at your craft! If
you put out a crap album or if you can’t play live, you won’t be
around for long.
MM
- Finally
is there anything we’ve forgotten to ask you about that you’d like
to mention here and do you have any closing messages for our readers?
Eric
-
Keep
checking out new music! And
be sure to check out the new album at www.chinabluemusic.com.
And you can always check out my latest updates on my site at www.keyboardplayer.net.
Thanks and rock on! Eric
MM
- We'd
like to wish Eric every success with his forthcoming projects and
releases and hope to catch up with him again some day when he hit these
shores.
Check out the reviews of some of the projects he's worked on so far ...
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